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19-2-2016 2:58 pm  #1


Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

Eezy, You said in another thread about the S144 cert, Here is the thread http://n2d.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=1857  

Quote "The SOT in my opinion should contain a trip log and an actual calcs sheet for the purchase, or as I do, calcs for a sample quantity of the goods I buy. An officer will then have all the information he requires over say, a 12 or 24 month period to assess if the shopper is genuine." End Quote

I know I keep going on about this and the trip log. Could you please the statement above further using my examples.  EG: Smoke 40 a day, travel every 3 months and buy 3000 every time I travel.

Very grateful for your explanation.

Garry


 


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19-2-2016 4:57 pm  #2


Re: Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

Yes Garry, no problem. I thought it might raise the odd eyebrow http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


What is particularly relevant is personal usage. Let's say you smoke GV. You are not going to smoke quicker or slower no matter how much you have purchased. Likewise the price and saving per pouch is the same whether you buy 1 kg or 10 kgs.

Therefore I would take 1 pack of 10 pouches. Calcs would be for how many cigs per pouch, how many cigs per day and week and therefore how many pouches per week. You would show cost and savings also. All the usual calcs but for 1 pack only. The actual total amount I purchase is then on my trip log.

Reason that I do it this way is because we vary our purchases depending on need. So if we buy 5 packs and customs ask how long they will last tell him to work it out from the calcs sheet. Obviously it will be 5 times the sample sheet. It saves me having to waste time doing a new calcs sheet for every trip. Plus if we change our mind and bring a different quantity it doesn't screw up the sheet. We just change total on the trip log.

I bet that's about as clear as mud http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


Just say if you don't follow and I'll explain it better when the cricket has finished - won't be long by the look of it!


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21-2-2016 12:34 pm  #3


Re: Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

Right I think I may have finally got it.

I have 1 calc sheet showing savings on 1 Carton of 200 cigs as this is how we normally buy them Showing savings and how long they will last.
Then another calcs sheet showing actually amount purchased along with savings and how long they will last us.
Plus of course a trip log showing last 2 years of travel.

We allways buy the same number everytime we travel and generally only travel when the 241 are on.

Garry

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21-2-2016 2:17 pm  #4


Re: Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

N2Dgarry wrote:

Right I think I may have finally got it.

I have 1 calc sheet showing savings on 1 Carton of 200 cigs as this is how we normally buy them Showing savings and how long they will last.
Then another calcs sheet showing actually amount purchased along with savings and how long they will last us.
Plus of course a trip log showing last 2 years of travel.

We allways buy the same number everytime we travel and generally only travel when the 241 are on.

Garry

I have just one calc sheet showing the sample quantity and then the total purchased goes on my trip log.

However if you are sure you are going to buy the same amount every time there is nothing to be gained by doing it differently to what you've always done.


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21-2-2016 2:38 pm  #5


Re: Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

Did you get my email ?

Garry


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21-2-2016 3:24 pm  #6


Re: Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

N2Dgarry wrote:

Did you get my email ?

Garry

Yep, replied x2 'cos I forgot the attachments first time http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/sleep.png


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21-2-2016 9:44 pm  #7


Re: Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

Would it be something like this?
1 Unit of Amberleaf 50gx10 = £182.90 @ Waitrose
                                            =  £66.50 @ Real Tobacco Belgium
Saving per unit   = £116.40

Units purchased = 3

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21-2-2016 11:08 pm  #8


Re: Trip Logs Sorry to keep banging on about this subject.

Shaky made excellent online fillable calc sheets a while back and they are still the best.

http://n2d.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=1910

What I am saying is, because I tend to buy different quantities every time I shop, (and I travel often), my calc sheet contains a sample 1 unit of what I buy. This saves me having to do new calc sheets for me and mrs eezy every time we travel.

Otherwise the calc sheet contains the same info - EU price/GB price/saving per unit/quantity used per day/week/year. My trip log contains the actual amount purchased per trip so Mr customs simply has to multiply that quantity by the info on my calc sheet to see what my goods cost and how long they will last.

After all that if you travel 2 or 3 times a year it's no hardship to make up a new calc sheet each time you travel and update your trip log if you use one.


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