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07-10-2018 3:56 pm  #1


Public notice 300 etc

Once sent info back to HRMC how long does it usually take to get a response to understand what the fine, penalty, duty is you need to pay back

 

08-10-2018 5:01 pm  #2


Re: Public notice 300 etc

I'm travelling for a couple of days so have a fickle net connection.

The short answer is if there are no reviews or tribunals pending then you'll get a bill within a couple of weeks or so. Strictly speaking though,normally, they have 3 years to recover any dues.


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04-3-2019 10:25 pm  #3


Re: Public notice 300 etc

Hi I’ve been waiting since the 26/4/2018 for condemnation proceedings and know that the crown solicitors have not yet applied to the court as when I contacted them they have no records of me and BF (scum) told me they sent them the paperwork in July (probably lies). So my question is does the 6 month time limit definitely apply in Northern Ireland as this would mean I would win my case by default. I said to the BF today in a phone call about this 6 month time limit and he told me that it definitely does not apply to Northern Ireland.

 

04-3-2019 10:49 pm  #4


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djg166 wrote:

Hi I’ve been waiting since the 26/4/2018 for condemnation proceedings and know that the crown solicitors have not yet applied to the court as when I contacted them they have no records of me and BF (scum) told me they sent them the paperwork in July (probably lies). So my question is does the 6 month time limit definitely apply in Northern Ireland as this would mean I would win my case by default. I said to the BF today in a phone call about this 6 month time limit and he told me that it definitely does not apply to Northern Ireland.

All of our knowledge and advice comes from our experience and that of others, along with years of heavy research. We are not professionals. I believe we have not had a case come to court in NI and only 1 in Scotland. So from the point of view of experience we have none.

Studying the relevant regs it would appear that the time limit does not apply to court hearings where tax issues are involved. My thoughts are that condems fall into that category.

Personally I think I would visit a good, long established specialist accountant and if necessary pay for his opinion on the matter, that is, someone who actually deals with tax issues and court. 

Sorry but in this case cannot give a definitive answer.
 


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05-3-2019 12:18 pm  #5


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DJG

After giving it some thought.....

Firstly I assume the seizure took place in NI? i.e. if you had been travelling overland and the seizure took place at say, Dover, then obviously English law would apply.

It really is a predicament that you are in. Normally I would advise to contact NPSU, point out that the case is time-barred and request return of the goods or compensation.

In your case if the 6 month limit does not apply, by contacting BF they have indefinite time to resubmit the case to the crown solicitor, and subsequently to court. I think if it was me I would be badgering the solicitor's office to find out,
a) what is their opinion on the 6 month time limit, and
b) how do you proceed from here.

Sorry but that's the best I can offer at the minute.

Please let us know how this develops.


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05-3-2019 1:21 pm  #6


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Yes the seizure took place at Belfast international airport and I was bringing personal cigarettes back an they seized them. On this forum u say that the the time limit does apply to NI. I’m challenging the legally of the seizure of cigarettes and rolling tobacco, not tax I thinks. Oh and the tobacco was from Spain 🇪🇸. They BF have stopped me every time since this seizure.

 

05-3-2019 1:39 pm  #7


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The Limitations Act does apply to NI and we always believed it applied to Condems also. We have not had reason to revisit that point as no-one has requested assistance until AndyG asked for help a couple of weeks ago.

It was then pointed out by turbulentupstart that the 6 month limit does not apply to condems in NI, and in fact it would appear he is correct because the time limit exempts matters of tax.

If and when a summons appears it will read something like '' xx quantity of cigs was imported for a commercial use without the relevant duty having been paid''. So I'm afraid it is a tax issue.


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