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22-1-2013 9:01 pm  #1


Border Force ranking insignia

Got a reply from my FOI regarding ranks. Here is the ranking system. They apologise for their diagram still showing Border Agency but assure me that the ranking system is the same except it now says Border Force. Unfortunately they forgot to give me the meaning of the abbreviations for AA, AO etc etc but it will come. (Edit ... Now got the ranks)

lt helps to know who's stopping and questioning you.

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AA = Administrative Assistant, AO = Administrative Officer             EO = Executive Officer,  HEO = Higher Executive Officer, SEO = Senior Executive Officer.
                                             AIO = Assistant Immigration Officer, IO = Immigration Officer, CIO = Chief Immigration Officer,  HMI = Her Majestys Inspector

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AD = Assistant Director, DD = Deputy Director, D = Director

Last edited by Smoking Hot (23-1-2013 12:35 pm)


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When cross-border shopping, take your Statement of Truth etc and ALWAYS record the Border Force interviews and NEVER EVER sign their notebook ... Period!
 

22-1-2013 9:08 pm  #2


Re: Border Force ranking insignia

Guesswork (Edit ... got it all rght! Woohoo!)

AA = Administrative Assistant, AO = Administrative Officer              EO = Executive Officer,  HEO = Higher Executive Officer, SEO = Senior Executive Officer.
                                             AIO = Assistant Immigration Officer, IO = Immigration Officer, CIO = Chief Immigration Officer,  HMI = Her Majestys Inspector

Last edited by Smoking Hot (23-1-2013 12:36 pm)


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When cross-border shopping, take your Statement of Truth etc and ALWAYS record the Border Force interviews and NEVER EVER sign their notebook ... Period!
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22-1-2013 9:48 pm  #3


Re: Border Force ranking insignia

The AA is the coffee machine, right?


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22-1-2013 9:58 pm  #4


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Smoking Hot wrote:

Guesswork

AA = Administrative Assistant, AO = Administrative Officer              EO = Executive Officer,  HEO = Higher Executive Officer, SEO = Senior Executive Officer.
                                             AIO = Assistant Immigration Officer, IO = Immigration Officer, CIO = Chief Immigration Officer,  HMI = Her Majestys Inspector

You missed E I E I O!


They lie on recordings; they lie on oath; their shysters lie on their behalf. Don't believe a word coming from the mouths (2 per person) of any UKBA officer.
 

22-1-2013 10:05 pm  #5


Re: Border Force ranking insignia

Marlboro wrote:

The AA is the coffee machine, right?

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When cross-border shopping, take your Statement of Truth etc and ALWAYS record the Border Force interviews and NEVER EVER sign their notebook ... Period!
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22-1-2013 10:05 pm  #6


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Marlboro wrote:

The AA is the coffee machine, right?

or absolute arsehole
 


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23-1-2013 8:55 am  #7


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The work

Your main tasks at administrative officer (AO) or administrative assistant (AA) grade would be to deal with customers, update records and carry out routine clerical duties. Your day-to-day work would depend on which department or agency you worked for, but might include:

handling enquiries from the public in person, by telephone or by letter
updating computerised and paper-based records
processing benefit payments
researching information
filing, photocopying and other administrative tasks.

With experience, you could deal with more complex enquiries or complaints, or take on more specialist work related to your department

Note! Ability to fill drinks dispenser will give candidates bonus points at interview


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23-1-2013 9:17 am  #8


Re: Border Force ranking insignia

Reading from ukba website I form the opinion that no-one below 2 stripes is qualified/authorised to make a decision on seizures. Am I right?


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23-1-2013 4:50 pm  #9


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eezyrider wrote:

Reading from ukba website I form the opinion that no-one below 2 stripes is qualified/authorised to make a decision on seizures. Am I right?

Errrr ... No! ... see below:-

CEMA

(2) Any person, whether an officer or not, engaged by the orders or with the concurrence of the Commissioners (whether previously or subsequently expressed) in the performance of any act or duty relating to an assigned matter which is by law required or authorised to be performed by or with an officer, shall be deemed to be the proper officer by or with whom that act or duty is to be performed.

(3)Any person deemed by virtue of subsection (2) above to be the proper officer shall have all the powers of an officer in relation to the act or duty performed or to be performed by him as mentioned in that subsection.


Hope you all got that
 


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When cross-border shopping, take your Statement of Truth etc and ALWAYS record the Border Force interviews and NEVER EVER sign their notebook ... Period!
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23-1-2013 5:08 pm  #10


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Sounds like they can 'deputise' any passing civvy if they feel like it. Not good!


They lie on recordings; they lie on oath; their shysters lie on their behalf. Don't believe a word coming from the mouths (2 per person) of any UKBA officer.
 

23-1-2013 5:25 pm  #11


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Sir Henry wrote:

Sounds like they can 'deputise' any passing civvy if they feel like it. Not good!

 (whether previously or subsequently expressed) !!!! http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/shocked.png

 


http://i45.tinypic.com/24uxqug.png We don't do nice ... we do right!

When cross-border shopping, take your Statement of Truth etc and ALWAYS record the Border Force interviews and NEVER EVER sign their notebook ... Period!
     Thread Starter
 

23-1-2013 6:16 pm  #12


Re: Border Force ranking insignia

Smoking Hot wrote:

eezyrider wrote:

Reading from ukba website I form the opinion that no-one below 2 stripes is qualified/authorised to make a decision on seizures. Am I right?

Errrr ... No! ... see below:-

CEMA

(2) Any person, whether an officer or not, engaged by the orders or with the concurrence of the Commissioners (whether previously or subsequently expressed) in the performance of any act or duty relating to an assigned matter which is by law required or authorised to be performed by or with an officer, shall be deemed to be the proper officer by or with whom that act or duty is to be performed.

(3)Any person deemed by virtue of subsection (2) above to be the proper officer shall have all the powers of an officer in relation to the act or duty performed or to be performed by him as mentioned in that subsection.


Hope you all got that
 

Yes I didn't make myself clear, dohh....

I realise almost anyone can be authorised by HMRC and their lower echelons to carry out customs duties. Reading the job descriptions though from UKBA web, it says summat like AA is basically office worker, then AO. The work of an EO (2 stripes)involves dealing directly with the public, carrying out interviews etc. We often hear of interviewers leaving the room as if to report to a higher officer and then coming back with decisions. I just wondered if BF had a policy of referring seizure decisions to an EO rank or above.
It makes no difference of course other than to my unending curiosityhttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


I believe rank titles are to change, probably when the grey uniform arrives, to ABO, BO etc. However BO appears to be causing some dissent.http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png
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Please ensure you do not divulge any information which could identify you as Border Force will use your posts here as evidence against you in court.

 
 

23-1-2013 6:22 pm  #13


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Eezy ... it is as it says, anyone can be deemed a proper officer to seize your goods. Where it goes a bit pear-shaped for them is that the seizure has to be reasonable which means that the proper officer may have the power to seize but they have to do it properly. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png


http://i45.tinypic.com/24uxqug.png We don't do nice ... we do right!

When cross-border shopping, take your Statement of Truth etc and ALWAYS record the Border Force interviews and NEVER EVER sign their notebook ... Period!
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