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06-2-2013 12:51 am  #1


FOI 27596 Number of Seizures 2010/2011 and 2011/2012


 
Annex A 
 
Information requested: 
 
1) For 2010/11 and 2011/12, the number of tobacco / cigarette seizures and 
of vehicles seized for: 
Airport seizures 
Maritime seizures 
Overseas seizures 
Cross-border seizures 
 
2) Confirmation as to whether HMRC are still responsible for inland seizures. 
 
 
Response: 
 
 
1) Seizures 
 
Tobacco and Cigarette Seizures 
 
Please find below the number of seizures of tobacco and cigarettes made in 
the air and maritime environments. 
 
2010/11 
Cigarettes
Air           25,720 
Maritime    3,048 
Tobacco   
Air            7,532
Maritme    3,268

Total       39,568


2011/12 
Cigarettes


Air          26,066 
Maritme    2,670 
Tobacco
Air           8,138
Maritime   3,387

Total       40,261

(Edit by SH.  In 2008/9 there were 68,765 seizures but these included Inland seisures of 1,477 that are no longer in Border Force stats. lnland seizures are now HMRC. Also there are no stats for Cross Channel Seizures that were 2836 seizures in 2008/9 and there are no Overseas seizures which were 132 in 2008/9. Even so, according to these latest stats seizures have gone down by something like 25,000! Were we that good?) 

( Link   http://nothing-2-declare.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/what-hmrcukba-dont-want-you-to-know.html)

 
Please note that the figures quoted are management information, which are 
subject to internal quality checks and may be subject to change. 
 
 
Overseas seizures - The Home Office does not hold this information, as we 
have no jurisdiction to seize goods abroad.  It would be for the authorities in 
that country to seize any goods.(Yes maybe so but HMRC used to add these stats along with the total amount seized overseas. ln 2008/9 they claimed 855 million cigarettes were seized by them when they were not)
 
Cross border seizures - I have taken this to mean the movement of traffic from 
EIRE/Channel Islands/IoM into/out of mainland UK.  HMRC are responsible 
for seizures in this environment.  If you require information on cross border 
seizures, you will need to contact HMRC at [email address]. (lt should have been Cross Channel, not Cross Border)
 
 
 
Vehicle seizures 
 
The Home Office does hold details of vehicles seized; however under section 
12 of the Act, the Home Office is not obliged to comply with an information 
request where to do so would exceed the cost limit.  We have estimated that 
the cost of meeting your request (the number of vehicles seized) would 
exceed the cost limit of £600 specified in the Freedom of Information and 
Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations 2004.  We are 
therefore unable to comply with it.  The data requested is not held in a 
reportable format.  We would have to go through case details of tobacco 
seizures to establish whether the vehicle was seized.  We have estimated that 
to gather and collate the information you have requested would exceed the 
£600 cost threshold. 
 
The £600 limit is based on work being carried out at a rate of £25 per hour, 
which equates to 24 hours of work per request. The cost of locating, retrieving 
and extracting information and preparing the response can be included in the 
costs for these purposes.  The costs do not include considering whether any 
information is exempt from disclosure, overheads such as heating or lighting, 
or items such as photocopying or postage. 
 
If you refine your request, so that it is more likely to fall under the cost limit, 
we will consider it again.  You could consider refining the request by greatly 
reducing the time period in question. 
 
Please note that if you simply break your request down into a series of similar 
smaller requests, we might still decline to answer it if the total cost exceeds 
£600 

(This is pants! l'll come back to this later)
 
 
2) Inland seizures 
 
Yes, HMRC are still responsible for inland seizures.  If you require information 
on inland seizures please contact HMRC at [email address].  


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06-2-2013 1:16 pm  #2


Re: FOI 27596 Number of Seizures 2010/2011 and 2011/2012

Seizures down by 25,000 a year? WTF? Maybe we are winning then!


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06-2-2013 1:46 pm  #3


Re: FOI 27596 Number of Seizures 2010/2011 and 2011/2012

Anybody know a way of finding out the number of air travellers compared to ferry travellers?
If we knew that it would be a nice little exercise to assess the percentage risk of travelling by sea or air.

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06-2-2013 2:18 pm  #4


Re: FOI 27596 Number of Seizures 2010/2011 and 2011/2012

eezyrider wrote:

Anybody know a way of finding out the number of air travellers compared to ferry travellers?
If we knew that it would be a nice little exercise to assess the percentage risk of travelling by sea or air.

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Maritime includes the ferrys.http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


2010/11 
Cigarettes
Air           25,720 
Maritime    3,048 
Tobacco   
Air            7,532
Maritme    3,268

Total       39,568


2011/12 
Cigarettes
Air          26,066 
Maritme    2,670 
Tobacco
Air           8,138
Maritime   3,387

Total       40,261

Air travellers 219 million. Ferry 21 million per annum. Dover the busiest 12.9 million.


 

Last edited by Smoking Hot (06-2-2013 2:23 pm)


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06-2-2013 3:36 pm  #5


Re: FOI 27596 Number of Seizures 2010/2011 and 2011/2012

A quick calculation on the basis of that shows that you are 30% more at risk of having your goods seized if you are carrying tobacco rather than cigs and travelling by sea.rather than air.


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