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29-11-2013 11:10 pm  #41


Re: Next time your goods and car will be seized!

eezyrider wrote:

Just back from Hull, our latest trip.
Uneventful trip apart from an unpleasant experience with Hull port security who turned everything over in the boot of the car, screwed our coats up and then said we have attitude! 

I have just this evening received an apology from P&O operations director. This has took 6 weeks and 12 emails and involved Profile Security regional manager,Profile's port manager, customer services, customer services ass manager, CEO of P&O and operations director of P&O.

I am now quite satisfied with the final response I have received. So it pays to keep going up the ladder until somebody takes you seriously.


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09-12-2013 6:55 pm  #42


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SAR to HMRC online  finally came back tonight after chasing it up through contact posted by Turbulent earlier in the thread. It has took 101 days.
''I can confirm we hold no information on you''

Mrs eezy's SAR arrived 30 mins later after 104 days.

''We cannot find any trace of your application''....after 104 days.

She has a receipt from them with ref number which was quoted on the complaint..DOHHHH..........


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08-1-2014 10:59 pm  #43


Re: Next time your goods and car will be seized!

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Update.
My MP has agreed to take this up ''at the highest level''. I'll update on any responses as and when but I'm not holding my breath at this stage.

Apparently this is now with the Immigration Minister and we are awaiting an 'expedited' response from him.
 

My MP has now raised this matter with the Home Secretary and added his own complaint about being ignored. Watch this space http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


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27-1-2014 11:29 am  #44


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I have today received a letter from my MP containing a response from the Director General of Border Force re my complaint about our stop in August. I must applaud my MP for his persistence in the matter.

Surprisingly the response is personal to my case and not the usual coffee machine reply. It does not address the original cause of my complaint but nevertheless does contain the following little gem.

''When passengers challenge being stopped, my officers will typically respond by explaining that there are a variety of reasons why people might be stopped and questioned. My officer must have reasonable grounds to suspect that a passenger might be holding goods chargeable with excise duty and may be liable (to) forfeiture. However it is not policy for my officers to provide specific information regarding the selection of passengers..............The decision to stop a passenger for customs purposes is made on the day of travel and all individuals are assessed on their own merits.''

 


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27-1-2014 3:00 pm  #45


Re: Next time your goods and car will be seized!

My officer must have reasonable grounds to suspect that a passenger might be holding goods chargeable with excise duty and may be liable (to) forfeiture.

just by hhaving excise goods in our possesion ,surely isn't reasonable grounds for the above or conducting a search under 163a cema?


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27-1-2014 4:00 pm  #46


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My officer must have reasonable grounds to suspect that a passenger might be holding goods chargeable with excise duty and may be liable (to) forfeiture.

just by hhaving excise goods in our possesion ,surely isn't reasonable grounds for the above or conducting a search under 163a cema?

The operative words are ''might'' and ''maybe''. They would establish you have goods under s78 and would have to interpret the above as meaning that they are entitled to question you because you ''maybe'' holding them for a commercial purpose?

Agreed though, that is not the commonsense interpretation. In reality we have both tested this argument several times in the field and they simply say that they have reasonable grounds and it is not in the public interest to disclose them.


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09-12-2015 2:17 pm  #47


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eezyrider wrote:

...
One little gem ''You seem unusually well versed on Cema sir?''
''Well you have to know your rights''
''would you like my epaulettes...''
''no officer that would be section 13''
''section 13?''
''Impersonating a customs officer''
''bloody hell scuse my swearing, you even know that''

Where does one get a hold of CEMA? I cannot find it in the downloads section. Thanks!


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09-12-2015 5:18 pm  #48


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eezyrider wrote:

...
One little gem ''You seem unusually well versed on Cema sir?''
''Well you have to know your rights''
''would you like my epaulettes...''
''no officer that would be section 13''
''section 13?''
''Impersonating a customs officer''
''bloody hell scuse my swearing, you even know that''

Where does one get a hold of CEMA? I cannot find it in the downloads section. Thanks!

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/2
 


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